Barriers broken, systems questioned, neurodiversity in the workplace. Stride by Stride – Episode 3 is live.
This is a very special podcast, featuring Jake, the Head of Employment Services within Stride. Those that have followed us for a while, will know that one of Stride’s core focuses is helping neurodivergent people to gain and sustain meaningful employment. Please smash the share and like button, and drop us a comment, the more engagement we get on this content, the more likely it is to reach those who need it most. If not for the support and wisdom, for Logan’s 10/10 Donald Trump impersonation.
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over to us.
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Okay, so uh we’re back in the podcast
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studio. Um or should I say I’m back in
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the podcast studio. This is your first
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time, Jake.
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Yeah.
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Um how how are you feeling?
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It’s nice to be on the Logan SP
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experience, mate. It’s uh yeah, I’m not
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normally too great in front of the
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bright lights, but it feels very
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natural. So, let’s see how it goes.
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Um, great. And obviously, we’ll get more
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into um, you know, your specific role
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and what you do and and your team within
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within Stride as the
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as we keep talking, but could you very
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briefly just uh,
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introduce yourself and and what you and
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your role just say what your role is.
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Yeah. So, this camera you
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just keep keep talking to me, buddy.
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Um, so, hi guys. I’m Jake from Strate
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Yorkshire. Now, I’m the employer
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engagement manager. So my team helps
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people get into work with support. Um
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I’m also an independence coach. Um kind
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of split between that and nearly anybody
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with a senior role at Stride has that as
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part of the responsibilities. It’s so
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important for what we do. Um being
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client focused. So yeah, my role’s
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progressed
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by just the nature of that how much
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success we’ve had in helping people into
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work really. So, um, growing team. We’ve
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got four four members of staff on my
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team now, which is brilliant. And, um,
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yeah, I mean, enjoying it, mate. I think
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found my calling in a way. Um, so yeah.
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Awesome. Awesome. Found my calling.
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Nice.
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That’s terrible.
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Get it pulling out the big guns. Uh,
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great. So, um, obviously you’ve been
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here for how long now?
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uh started last March, so about coming
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up to about 18 nearly two years.
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Yeah. Yeah. Nearly two years.
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Best part about two years now.
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It’s it’s flown by. Time flies when
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you’re having fun. Um
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absolutely.
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As obviously you we like I say, we’ll go
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more into your team and how how all that
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works, but generally have you found
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stride and uh the development of of
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stride while you’ve been while you’ve
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been with us?
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Some room for improvement at the top. So
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the leadership’s not too great. But um
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no, in all seriousness, it’s um I’ve
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always come from a background of working
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for massive companies where you are just
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another number. And to come back to
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Doncaster to help join at a time where
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we had five, six members of staff and
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now we’ve got 23 and we’re doubling in
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size every year. We’ve changed off we
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can’t we keep changing office because
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we’re just growing at such a rate
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helping helping more people. It’s it’s
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been great really. And um yeah, there’s
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definite negatives of working for a
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smaller business that’s early is in its
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early stages, but the positives far
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outweigh the negatives. And we are
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becoming as is required more structured
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and becoming a proper small to mediumsiz
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business now rather than a startup. And
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it’s it’s it’s exciting to be part of.
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Yeah, I mean I I I think that a lot of
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um the granted small success that we’ve
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achieved so far, but big big for us and
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I think big for the people of Doncaster,
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but I think a big part of what’s led to
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that is us thinking that we are bigger
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than what we are at all times. I think
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we we’ve got it in I think we are
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we’ve almost got little man syndrome in
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a way. We’re just like no we’re stride
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we’re coming for you. We are we are here
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to change the world for neurody
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divergent people and that’s um you know
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I firmly believe that at least around us
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we can we can achieve that. Um
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we’re unusual in in this space. So like
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we’re kind of social care we’re kind of
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recruitment. We’re kind of a marketing
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company, a training company. It’s like a
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lot of the companies that are in the box
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that this industry kind of normally puts
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you in wouldn’t be as ambitious as us
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and wouldn’t be like we’re reinvesting
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everything we make back into growing the
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team and growing doing marketing stuff
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like this to reach more people and help
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more people. It is unusual. We are a bit
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weird but that’s what we’re all about
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really. And it’s uh I I think you’ve got
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you’ve got to think about what what
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we’re trying to do and we are trying to
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get outcomes. We we are trying to get
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outcomes as much as we want to make our
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package completely bespoke to neurody
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divergent people and I think we achieve
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that and we
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get on a level with neurody divergent
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people and um I think we’re just almost
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like the mates half the time you know
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what I mean we’ve got we’ve got a really
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good relationship with our clients um
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but we get outcomes and that’s because
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we do get people that are from
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backgrounds not just in like you said
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neuro working with neurody divergent
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people or people with disabilities
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but people from recruitment and things
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like because why wouldn’t you? If my job
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is to get people into work, why not get
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people that have got that experience? I
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think if you treat things by nature of
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what they are, what you’re trying to do,
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you’re going to get the results. Um
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you only have to look at America um and
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think, oh, actually, we’ve got a
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president right now that’s not a um
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that’s actually not a politician. is a
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somebody that’s a business person, but
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he’s been brought in to treat the
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country for what it really is, which is
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a business.
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Um, it’s I’m not going to get political,
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buddy, but uh I watched the Trump
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documentary the other night and then
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that’s uh
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great guy.
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Fresh birthday people. One of the best
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people. Perfect people. Fantastic.
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He’s
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Yeah, that a tangent, but an interesting
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one. Now, you’re right though. Like
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do that. Yeah. everyone everyone that
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joins stride and then we’re kind of the
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training part. It’s quite difficult to
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train one independence coach should be
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because we’ve made a fancy title which
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is different from a traditional support
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worker because we genuinely believe they
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are different to a generic support
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worker. We’re trying to be more than
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that. It’s not just a mentor. We are
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there to help these people become more
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independent and there isn’t like a
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generic training exercise to train these
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people up. So we’ve got people from all
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sorts of backgrounds. We’ve got
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marketing, we’ve got um got sales,
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recruitment, but we’ve also got people
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that worked in education all the lives,
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people that worked in SNEN’s
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environments all life. It’s um yeah,
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it’s it’s great.
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I mean, it’s interesting because
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obviously Kieran’s just started.
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Shout out Kieran. How you do? How you
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doing, buddy? Kier’s just started and
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and he asked me uh about the type just
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going back a little bit to what you said
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about independence coaching
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um and what what really is that and he
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was like you know who’s your competitors
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who else is doing independence coaching
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I was like nobody’s like what do you
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mean nobody there’s got to be somebody
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out there doing independence coaching
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I made it up I made up the word
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independence coaching didn’t exist
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it’s there to fill a gap that I don’t
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think neurody divergent people get
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anywhere else
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no exactly
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and Um,
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that’s the uh Stride. Come and join.
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Everybody join Stride.
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Kron’s actually asked us to stop doing
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this because we’re spending too much
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money on it.
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Too much too much money.
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G our new finance manager who is a a
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penny pincher, but I guess it’s to
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protect protect the business. But um
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to the to the team at Seven Studios, you
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are safe. Don’t worry. Um
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he’s a big dog. Shut up, kid.
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Okay. Um, right. Personal, obviously
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that I’ve written down some points here
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as to what we can talk about. Personal.
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Um, tell me a bit about
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personal.
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Tell me a bit about Jake.
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A bit about a Jake. So, a Jake is a um
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Oh, he’s one of a kind. He’s um No, I
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all cards on the table like Logan’s one
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of my We grew up together. Yeah. So a
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Jake um went to university in Manchester
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and stayed there for the next six or
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seven years um working in recruitment,
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sales, account management, etc. And I
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obviously kept checking in with Logan
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and seeing this thing that he was
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building back in Doncaster and um that’s
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what drank me back cuz I was excited to
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um I was excited to be involved really.
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He’d kind of asked me a few times and I
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was like I’m not sure if it would be the
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right fit for me. I’m doing this thing
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and I’m I’m getting maybe a bit big for
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my boots going. I’m working for these
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big companies. But
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yeah,
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uh we got bought one of my employees got
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bought out by um American Investor and
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they obviously did the redundancies for
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the sales team
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and it happened to come in at the same
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exact time I was chatting to yourself
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about uh joining Stride. I took some
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advice from one of my friends, Rod, and
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he was like, “Get involved with
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something you care about. be there from
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as close as you can to the ground up and
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grow and help that business grow and
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your success grows with it as does the
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success of all the people that we’re
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working with
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and I hate to bring Rod up because it’d
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be so he’s a bit of a knowit all but
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that is down to Rod Rod’s the guy that
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we were talking about the other day with
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the sales sales tools. Thanks Rod.
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Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks Rod. You’ve
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helped us out a couple of times.
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Um no that’s that’s awesome. Yeah, we
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have known each other a long time.
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Obviously, uh we uh still close, still
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support Le United. Sorry if that’s just
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caused a load of people to switch off
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from the podcast. And I think what a lot
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of people might not realize about you as
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a person is that I think, you know,
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you’re a big guy. You look like a I
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think you look like a quite a tough guy.
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Um
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tough guy,
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one of the toughest, one of the greatest
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guys. Um, but I think deep down, you
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know, you’ve you’ve got a heart, gold,
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and I think I’ve surrounded myself in my
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life with people that are good people,
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the best people. Um, and I think that
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it completely made sense for me when you
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was like, I want to work with neurody
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divergent people.
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Um, you know, I love what you’re doing.
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Um, I think it I think you you recognize
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that it was a
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um not just a a necessary
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um like part of what needs to happen for
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social reform in in the UK and the world
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at the moment, but I think it absolutely
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needed. I think it was essential and I
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think you recognize that. Um, I love the
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coaching side as much as I do the
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employment side. But what is the most
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the perfect experience through stride is
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somebody does the independence coaching
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to get them ready for an employment and
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then they can actually get those
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outcomes. We can help them through that
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entire process from start to finish. We
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can help people that don’t necessarily
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have the coaching as well. It’s not a
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requirement. But
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the best the best thing is and you come
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back to like what in inspires me to do
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what I do. It’s like we are just in
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basic terms here to help people get
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where they want to be and it’s quite
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often people that don’t know where to
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start and I think we’ve all been like
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that a little bit like you finished
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university like what do I do and
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I was like move down to London I don’t
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like London I mean I’m a I’m a classic
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noer you know what I mean it’s too
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expensive up there I’m down there
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um but some of the people that come to
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us for up truly
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um they
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even at your lowest moment. They might
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be even so much lower than that in a
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sense that they haven’t got the network
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and they’ve uh support networks. Often
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they kind of fall through the gaps of
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services that are meant to be there to
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support and it’s it’s not really the
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fault of the services per se. It’s the
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the fact that there’s gaps that we are
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that we are filling and we’re
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yeah I think everybody everybody’s
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winning from what we’re doing. The
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clients were help the uh employers were
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helping employers match um we’re
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matching candidates that they would not
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have considered and we have to kind of
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knock down doors to get to get that
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client in front of an employer to prove
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listen look just just trust our
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judgment. Look at how far this person
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can excel if but we are we are at the
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stage of banging down the door to make
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them opportunities right now. over time
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hopefully that will become less of it
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because hopefully we can
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change people’s minds in the long term
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but um
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yeah it’s it’s a rewarding thing to do.
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On the subject of um knocking down doors
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and there being more opportunities out
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there and things like that, we’ve got uh
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some potentially big plans, haven’t we,
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over the next uh over the next year. Uh
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dare we mention a few
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a couple of the things something that
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you’ve in particular have been looking
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at um taking a leading role on
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um you’re going to have to remind me
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which one we’ve got so many big plans
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I say satellite
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right yeah so yeah of course um as we
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grow um in Doncaster like we we’ve
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already we’re already starting to see
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inquiries for our support from outside
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of our where we’re based in Doncaster
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Stride Yorkshire but I think the idea
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here is it we’re going to become stride
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and not let’s not limit ourselves to
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Yorkshire. So had placements um of job
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coach support um it’s came from a
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referral directly from the DWP
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recommending us to a client that’s um
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inquired in York and uh Sheffield. We’ve
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got a few um people in work in Sheffield
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at the minute, but guess longterm if
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you’re dreaming it would be every area
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of the of the UK would have a stride um
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to help neurody divergent people in
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terms of employment support. And yeah,
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that’s a bit of a sounds like a pipe
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dream, but I can’t see why it wouldn’t
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work like in terms of the impact we have
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in Doncaster. Why wouldn’t it just be
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able to copy and paste that into every
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area across the UK? like Stride
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Worldwide eventually.
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Stride worldwide. God,
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wide. Wide wide worldwide.
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Step brothers. What a film. Um,
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brilliant. So, I guess quick message
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from myself and Jake. If you are in the
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UK and you haven’t heard about us yet,
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we may be coming to a neighborhood near
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you.
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Absolutely.
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I don’t want to sound like Liam Niss,
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but we will find you.
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Um so yeah that’s awesome. Um
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okay on the subject of obviously um
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uh just you know different things we’ve
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got the opportunity for the person in
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York and that’s great. Um, I just want
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you to
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tell whoever’s listening right now, um,
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a couple of standout
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not moments, case studies if you like,
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people that have, um, people that have
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surpassed your expectations and and or
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or areas that maybe we’ve changed their
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lives. There’s there’s a couple that I’m
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probably most proudest of and it’s
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probably be the foc like we’ve helped
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like tens of people just this last
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couple of month be like we’re up to
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coming up to over 100 people in in work
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um in the last two years
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thousands of people thousands of people
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the
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millions
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the the probably the standout for me
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would be um one of the clients that I do
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the independence coaching before and
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then I’ve placed him into two roles um
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in the last year. Um so he’s got a
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condition called selective mutism which
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personally thinks a silly name for what
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it is because it could be misleading but
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it you’d kind of deduce that selective
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mutism means he chooses not to speak but
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generally speaking he he doesn’t doesn’t
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speak even
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so if you’re a psychologist and you’re a
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lot more qualified than Jake Russell do
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better. Yeah, they need to work on the
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branding. I think it’s a poor name and
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it can be Yeah, it can be
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Yeah. Where’s the marketing involvement?
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But no, he it’s a he’s such a great such
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a great lad and he’s got a massive
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barrier in terms of just try and plan
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just try and imagine a day that you have
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where you can’t speak. Logan would
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probably like it if I had if I didn’t
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speak that often. But um
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yeah, we’ve we’ve done lots of like over
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18 months of work with with with um this
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client. I’m trying not to say his name
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because it’s um probably
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confidentiality.
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Yeah. But um yeah it we we had a
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partnership with a company called GXO
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which a logistics firm and they were
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really accommodating to make an an
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environment that uh to make the
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adjustments required for this person to
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to to get along in that in that role. It
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didn’t work out for him personally. They
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they did try their best but mainly just
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shift uh patterns and stuff and
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no but sorry it did a lot for his
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development though didn’t it?
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Massively. Yeah, in terms of and that’s
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what we kind try and sell to the clients
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when they first come to us. It’s like
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just cuz your goal is here doesn’t mean
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that you’re going to get there
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immediately and even a failure.
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How many jobs have you had
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including like part-time like more than
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10 isn’t it really? Like in terms of
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I think I’d be closer to
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to 20. I mean, yeah, it’s um it
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sometimes is a bit of trial and error um
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when it comes to finding your forever
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job or or the industry that you want to
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work in for the rest of your life. Um
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I didn’t going to uni to do psychology,
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I didn’t foresee that I was going to be
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doing what I’m doing now. It’s
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life is weird and it takes you on weird
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paths. I think sometimes
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because I know it’s a bit of a side
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topic, but I think it’s important
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because our clients are quite black and
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white that it’s like if that doesn’t
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work out on that first opportunity, then
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either that says something about me, I’m
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unemployable or it says something about
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the um the world of work, employment in
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the UK, every employer’s going to be
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terrible and not accommodating enough
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and no environment is going to be right
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for me. And that’s not the truth. And I
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think um that resilience will come. Um I
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think we try and teach our clients that
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resilience. But yeah, I think overcoming
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those initial setbacks uh of
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um you your first opportunity not being
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the right one. It’s uh I think it’s part
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of the journey and it should not be the
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end of the journey for people.
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Um
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sorry, go back to go back to this
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individual.
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Yeah, it’s all about him. that. So
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anyway, my client um yeah, he
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he’s now um working for an engineering
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firm and is is um passed his driving
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test. He’s starting to socialize. He
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comes to our uh every Fortnite we play
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football um um with the clients and the
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coaches we get together. He’s been
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coming along to bad like he he came to
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me with one goal, get a job. But what’s
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come along alongside that has been so
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many barriers have been broken down from
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him and he’s thrown himself into
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uncomfortable situations but reap the
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benefits of that. And
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I don’t blame the employers like we
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apply for hundreds of jobs. I don’t
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blame the employers for when they
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realize he’s got a condition that means
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he doesn’t speak. I don’t blame them for
18:46
thinking well he’s not top of the list
18:48
because that is a difficult barrier to
18:50
overcome but
18:51
it’s important for a lot of jobs. That
18:52
was my job to to to fight for him and go
18:55
please trust me. He will be a grafter.
18:57
He will be reliable. He will be
18:59
committed uh to he want he wants to
19:03
develop within that role and there is
19:05
ways that we can work around um the
19:07
communication and we have done and yeah
19:10
we’re seeing that. So for the time
19:12
being, stride responsibility here is to
19:14
to like we say break down them barriers
19:16
with the employers, but eventually we’re
19:18
hoping that that that part isn’t needed
19:20
to be done, but there’s a long way to
19:21
go.
19:22
I I think as well the the hard thing
19:25
here is too many people would have
19:28
written this guy off.
19:29
Yeah,
19:29
too many people would have written him
19:30
off. I mean, even when I hear myself say
19:34
he’s
19:36
non-verbal, almost non-verbal, has a
19:38
condition that often manifests as being
19:40
similar to non-verbal.
19:42
Um,
19:44
he’s he’s he’s so intelligent, though.
19:46
Yeah, it’s Yeah, it’s a misconception
19:48
that because of what he’s he’s not
19:51
putting things out out externally, don’t
19:53
mean that there a lot going on
19:54
internally. And like, he’s a smart guy.
19:56
He goes to goes to the gym. He’s got
19:58
friends. He’s he keeps himself busy. He
20:00
has a social life, but he just happens
20:03
to be unique in the sense that his
20:05
conversations with me, he writes down on
20:07
his notes on his phone. And
20:09
um it’s not as practical as speaking
20:13
verbally, but it can be done. And as you
20:16
build that rapport, it’s almost quite
20:17
surprising how quickly that you get over
20:19
that initial bump.
20:21
Um so I’ve had even professionals ask
20:23
like how do you how do you have a good
20:26
communication with them and stuff? It’s
20:27
like just give it a go.
20:28
Yeah. just just talk to him like you
20:31
would any other person and see what
20:33
happens and um yeah great guy and really
20:37
proud of um really proud of him but also
20:39
the work we’ve done to support him and
20:42
yeah proud moment
20:43
do you know what I was going to ask you
20:45
for multiple case studies there are
20:46
loads of case studies check out our
20:48
website stride yorkshire
20:50
uh but that is I think for this for the
20:53
purpose of this I think that is you’re
20:56
not going to get much better than that
20:57
is that is amazing We always go on about
20:59
Harry as well. I don’t know. I mentioned
21:00
Harry, but Harry would be another one of
21:02
my examples.
21:03
Harry.
21:05
Yeah, Harry will save you for another
21:06
day, buddy. I think we’re in a rush, but
21:08
Harry, another another great example of
21:10
someone that’s
21:11
great guy.
21:13
He’s he’s come so far. And really, yeah,
21:16
really proud of the work he’s done. It’s
21:18
not all it’s not just, oh, Stride did
21:20
this for me. They have to engage with
21:23
the opportunities we can create. And
21:25
yeah, Harry’s another one. Um, but like
21:27
we say, yeah, there’s there’s literally
21:29
almost 100 people we’ve helped into work
21:31
in the last couple of years. So,
21:33
proud of each one of them in in
21:35
different ways, but I’d say the client
21:36
to mention is my highlight.
21:38
Great. There’s two challenges I want to
21:40
set for you to finish this uh this talk.
21:43
Um,
21:44
we got
21:44
We’re in a rush, you know.
21:46
We are in a rush. There’s two challenges
21:47
and and this is why it’s a challenge.
21:49
Um,
21:50
30 seconds. M
21:54
if somebody was thinking about joining
21:57
Stride um to get a job, what would you
22:00
tell them?
22:03
Maybe there’s a bit of fear around, you
22:05
know,
22:06
what’s the worst that’s going to happen
22:08
if you come to us for a conversation or
22:10
a chat, meet our team who are trained to
22:13
be accommodating of of your needs and be
22:16
understanding and try and create these
22:18
opportunities for you. If what is making
22:21
you not want to give it a go is the fear
22:24
of it, the worst that’s going to happen
22:26
if you give it a go and you don’t get
22:28
anywhere is you’re exactly where you are
22:30
now. Um, give it a go. There is
22:33
countless examples where we are helping
22:34
people who might be in the same boat as
22:36
you and we’re understanding dedicated to
22:40
um understand you and provide bespoke
22:43
support to help you with whatever your
22:45
goals are. Um,
22:46
have you got a timer, Johnny?
22:48
So, great. Yeah, that’s a hard way to
22:50
sum it up.
22:51
Absolutely. Um, obviously again you can
22:54
find us on our website
22:55
www.strjosha.co.uk.
22:57
Um,
22:59
final thing. Um, and I’m I’m going to
23:02
give you ever so slightly longer to talk
23:05
about this one. Uh, let’s see. Let’s aim
23:06
for a minute.
23:07
Thank you.
23:07
Um,
23:09
what would you And the reason I’m I
23:11
think we need to consider where we are,
23:12
the location of Doncaster right now. And
23:15
I know we’re talking about branching out
23:16
elsewhere. right now our main hub is in
23:18
Doncaster.
23:20
Um and you know the employers in
23:22
Doncaster uh might not I could be wrong
23:26
with this but from you know you have to
23:27
tell me from your experience I find may
23:29
not always be uh as progressive as maybe
23:33
other parts of the country in terms of
23:34
their um I don’t know if it’s fair to
23:36
say acceptance or inclusion of neurody
23:38
divergent people. Um, so
23:43
same thing, uh, kind of quickfire. If
23:45
you was to talk to an employer,
23:46
particularly the the local ones that we
23:48
work with, um, that was
23:51
that you was was was considering maybe
23:55
taking on somebody uh, that was neurody
23:57
divergent for the first time uh, with
24:00
potentially without support. Um, what
24:02
what would that look like?
24:03
Yeah. So completely understandable that
24:06
it can be an off-putting topic because
24:08
you don’t know small businesses
24:10
particularly, they haven’t got massive
24:12
HR teams and learning and development
24:14
and etc. to understand that. Don’t worry
24:16
about that. That’s what we’re here for.
24:18
We’re the professionals to make that um
24:20
as smooth as possible. We’re here
24:22
primarily for the client, but if
24:24
supporting you benefits our client as
24:26
well, that’s what we’re here for. We’re
24:27
here to make make it work for for both
24:30
of you. And um there’s no shame in not
24:34
being as clued up on all these terms um
24:36
that that we might use every day because
24:39
we’re still we’re still learning. I’ll
24:41
say something. I don’t think you can say
24:42
that anymore. I mean, we’re we we’re
24:44
lads from Doncaster. We’ll have a
24:46
downto-earth conversation about how this
24:48
could work for for you for the benefit
24:50
of our clients. So, don’t go into it
24:52
being too scared uh to ask questions. If
24:55
you don’t know what we mean by
24:56
something, ask us. That’s our job to
24:58
fill that gap. And um there is a lot
25:01
more support um out there than you think
25:03
to support clients into work and inquire
25:06
with Jake at stradio.co.uk if you’re
25:09
interested.
25:11
You realize you just gave your email to
25:12
potentially millions of people now.
25:14
Joking.
25:15
It’s ambitious.
25:16
If if we get millions of view, maybe I’m
25:18
manifesting millions of viewers. If we
25:19
do get millions of viewers, please
25:21
bombard him. Uh Jake couldn’t have said
25:23
that much better myself, mate. Um thank
25:25
you.
25:25
Thanks, buddy.
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