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Welcome to the studio, boys. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome. Welcome to You You should feel
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welcome as well. Thank you. We are all welcome.
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Yeah. So, in the studio, we’ve got uh
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the so well, I guess the social media team of Stride today. Um, and me, I’m
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Logan, the director of Stride. Uh, do you want to just quickly introduce uh yourselves?
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Uh, yeah. So, uh, my name is Miles. I have been working with Stride now just
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for a little under a month. Um, I have recently joined as the social media
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marketing manager. Um, I’m Sheridan. I’ve been working for
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Stride for about a year and a half. Yeah. Uh running the social media.
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I’d say about a year and a half. And it’s been a a very it’s been a how how would you des in one word describe your
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year and a half with Stride? Joyful, I guess. I don’t know.
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Joyful. Joyful. Joyful. It’s brought him joy. It’s brought him joy. We’ll take joyful.
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And Miles, obviously, how’s it feel to kind of be on board? Well, I know
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obviously we’ll we’ll probably get into a little bit about your personal journey behind um joining Stride, but
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very briefly in a word, how does it feel to be on on board?
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Meaningful is probably the best word I can choose for. I mean, I don’t I know that it’s something that I’ve obviously
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given that you and I are friends, it’s something that I’ve seen you do for like you sort of spearheading this entire thing for for as long as you have. Um
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I’ve always found it just super important and really um compassionate
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more than anything. But given that it’s all the closer to home for me now, um yeah, I’m just really
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happy to be a part of this and to uh to to to contribute to what is already a
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successful thing. Yeah, that’s amazing. Um so I think that’s
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really good as far as just like introductions go for now as to as to who we are.
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We’re going to be doing a reintroduction to Stride. So, we’re going to be talking about what Stride means to everybody
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here. Um, obviously for me as a director and for you two that are both neurody divergent and have came to work for
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Stride. Um, I think it’s uh I think it’s really
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great that you know you’re part of a company where you can share your message and I feel like I’m glad that you feel
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comfortable enough to do that. Um, especially given for yourself Miles that’s a that’s a newfound condition.
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Um, so we obviously we’ll get into all that stuff. Um, we’re going to obviously be talking
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in general then about neurodeiversity in the workplace and how that affects us.
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Um, it affects what we go through every day. It affects how we shape stride. Um, it affects you guys specifically as
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neurody divergent people. Um, and obviously there’s certain barriers that we might need to overcome um, to get
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into the workplace. So we can discuss all those different concepts. Um and then we can talk about what this
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means for the social media team. Uh what are we going to be doing over the next
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year or so? Uh to bring in a closer audience among the neurody divergent
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community um not just to promote stride and the services that we offer but to
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actually deliver something meaningful and and offer our social media as a separate platform.
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Yeah. to to just like a a social outreach that isn’t so much yeah this is
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what we do type thing. maybe letting other neurodyiverse people feel seen almost as to just very actual
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day in the life of what it’s like to go to work as a neurodyiverse person or even in this um
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you know you and I are neurodiverse in in different ways and that that that that that in itself is something that
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you know it’s not a tired of the same brush nurse people are
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it looks like that It could be, you know, it it it Yeah, it can it can it
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can show or be navigated in so many
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different ways type thing. Yeah. Yeah, that’s it. It’s uh it’s going to be something that’s quite
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um broaden its approach, I think. Um which, you know, obviously as as
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director, I have to think about these things. I think it’s going to indirectly
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um draw quite a lot of traction to Stride as a brand which is amazing. Um
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but more than anything, the most important thing for me is I want to
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really create a community um for neurody divergent people where you can even look at like a we spoke about this earlier
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like a comment section on a YouTube video and you’re going to see people that are
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like oh this uh this happened to me five years ago this is how I overcame it or
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yeah people talk from their own POV and sort of offer lived experience experience as to, you know, what they
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struggle with and what they did to to to to get around it or or let’s say if we post something that
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somebody disagrees with or if that is something that they’ve tried and it didn’t work, it’s all it’s all something
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that we can um yeah, just debate. It can be Yeah,
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absolutely. Now, I’m really conscious of in today’s video. I don’t want it to be
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just a lot of me talking because I have done a lot of that already this video. Um, and I’m going to be doing that. I I
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can’t help myself. Yeah, you are like it’s as you said,
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it’s like the introduction to a not series as such, but like it’s an
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introduction to like what we’re doing. So, I think it makes sense that you’ve
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been talking as much as you have. Yes. Yes. Yes. When again, it’s all cutable, so it’s
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it’s fine. I all love Logan. Just just I’m really I’m really, you know, I want
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to obviously today is about highlight highlighting the social media team and also
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neurodyivergent people in the workplace. So, I think prompt what is stride to me? um strides place for that I work
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um that’s helped me a lot it’s amazing um
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I don’t really know what else to say about it is amazing that helped it’s amazing it’s helped you a lot
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helped you a lot in what aspect as to like uh financial independence social um
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well they’ve helped everything cuz like um while they help me every week cuz I
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also have um like onetoone support via stride um on a uh Tuesday and Wednesday and
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then Friday with Ed. Mhm. Who’s great. Um and then obviously I come in to work, do my job.
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Mh. Um so they’ve helped me with like life and work I guess.
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Yeah. So well I I know we’ve spoke briefly about
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your job and what um what does that look like for you then? So like a typical
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I guess talk bit about your week because obviously Stride is quite heavily involved in your in your week
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isn’t it? Yeah. Yeah. A Monday. Monday. It’s a Monday today. So, this is a very
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different Monday. Come and do a podcast. Typical Monday. Typical typical Monday.
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Typical Monday. We go to a podcast studio for the first time and uh yeah. So, typical on Monday, get up, get
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in a taxi, I guess. Um come into the office. um
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log on where usually I check if there’s anything that like
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Harry’s done or Miles might have put in or even Logan
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even even though he never doesn’t he he never he has access to it but he hasn’t has put out in like ideas
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ju just to sorry I I don’t want to interrupt but just want to clarify in your job as a social media content
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creator just because I want to I just want to make like whoever is listening to the podcast aware that that’s shares
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a specific role uh within stride or if we’ve already said that previously just
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for this part of the video I think it’s important just to uh remind everybody of that um yeah go sorry go on you log on
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so I usually log on check what there is to do uh do that then schedule
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everything Um, Miles has now got me into doing alt
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text. So, last Thursday was great fun.
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I felt and there was there’s so many posts that like got on Thursday. The worst thing was I didn’t even know
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about it till Harry was like, “Oh, has Mile told you about the alt text?” And I was like, “What do you
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mean?” Oh, shout out Harry. He’s He remembers everything that I was like, “What are you on about?” And
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then it didn’t even work anyway. Yeah. Yeah. So that’s that’s Thursday
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doing alt text and it hasn’t even worked. It didn’t quite work. Well, yeah. But we’ll get I’m so annoyed.
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[Music] And the worst thing was there was like the most posts ever on day. There was
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like 20 posting like ideas and then Harry was like, “Oh, by the way, I’m putting three more in.” I was like,
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“Harry, I’m gonna please no more.” No. Okay. So that that’s stride to you. Um
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to my love at Harry Stride. Yeah. And Miles and on a Thursday
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as you pointed out Stride obviously it has a personal meaning for you as well in that you know um you quite well I
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know you’re quite proud to say that you’re a neurody divergent person. Um are you happy to say you like your
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conditions? If you’re not that’s all right. No, I’m fine with that. Um, so I have ADHD and autism.
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Yeah. Um, and that means that Stride has a different meaning for you anyway as a
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neurody divergent per, you know, person. That’s accessed work. And obviously a big part of what Stride does is helps
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neurodyivergent people to access work. So that’s amazing. I suppose
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for you. Um, do you do you want to Sorry, I’ve done
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exactly what I I need to shut up. Told me not to do and I’ve just spoke for you and that’s
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Well, you’ve not spoke for him. You’ve you’ve you’ve asked a question like
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So, do you do you want to like expand on any of that stuff? What?
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Um, about like the personal meaning of stride for you.
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So like you’re saying it’s it’s it’s it’s helped you with like managing work and stuff but like how has it helped
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you? Obviously you mentioned um your you work closely with Ed and two others. So like
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is it like one helps with like occupational stuff. Another one helps with Yeah. So
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So they’re both they’re all very helpful. So we’ve got Lisa.
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Well actually I’ll start with uh we have Joe. So Joe comes to me on a Tuesday
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house with like cooking. So I started cooking uh we actually started with HelloFresh
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and that been amazing because it has got me cooking new food because usually like
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I wouldn’t cook like new stuff like like actually cook as well like
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No, I’d cook but it wouldn’t be like new stuff. It’d be always like spag ball or oh like what you’ve done before type
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thing like comfort foods and but now like I’ve cooked loads of amazing stuff like usually I wouldn’t
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have onions and anything and like I made a spag bowl last night well attempted to make a spag bowl last
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night for the first time ever and I actually chopped onions and put onions in it. Didn’t end up having a spag bowl
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cuz soon realized it didn’t have spag ball sauce. So I kind of had to improvise on the spot after I’d already
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cooked the meat and the onions and I was like devastated. Do you know what though? Like so
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obviously coping strategies a bit a big part of what we I wouldn’t be able to do that without the fact that you could just on the spot
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improvise like that and be like I’m going to sort this out. That’s that’s really I was so like oh my god I panicked. I
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was like what am I going to make? So, I kind of just improvised and like chucked some of the things like that I’d learned
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through HelloFresh and with Joe’s help like together and I ended up just like having like a rap but with mints in it.
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Brilliant. I say like if if you didn’t have the source like did just like make all these things like what what then happened? But
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yeah, you and it was gorgeous like Yeah. And like it’s it’s again even though it’s you’re in a position where
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you’re just almost like freestyling like what you can make out what you’ve got and then you’ve got so far then you’ve realized oh I don’t have this bit you’ve
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still made some you’ve still you still made something that you I was like oh my god what am I going to do?
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Do you know what as well that’s like that’s a key thing for like budgeting as well because I know that’s a lot of you
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know the work that you’ve done has been about budgeting. you know, you’ve got something that’s like uh you you’ve got
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some fresh ingredients there and you’ve put it together and like I think about when I was at uni and like you know
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couldn’t couldn’t afford much of a food shop at all um joint weeks and it was often just
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throwing things together and just see sort of seeing what we had in. So, the fact that you could do that, use your
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initiative, use your independence, not go into any kind of state of of
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panic or overload, um, you know, stay calm, put yourself some food together that was nourishing and you enjoyed it.
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I I was proper like confident that I had a jar of like Bolognese sauce and then I
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soon realized it just didn’t. I was like, “Oh, no.” You still you still you still made
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No, I I I still had it. It was really nice. Um yeah. And then like also Joe’s been
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helping with going to the gym a lot. Yeah. So cuz um a couple of months ago I did
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tough mutter. Mhm. Oh, ace. It was great. Absolutely loved it. One of the best times of my life. Wouldn’t
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shut up about it for like and I literally rang my mom straight afterwards and was like
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best decision of my life. And I’m now doing it with my mom and John again next year, but instead of
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doing the 5K, I’m doing the 15. absolutely loved it. But again, like Joe’s helped with that.
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Yeah, that’s I mean the 5k one’s insane. Like the 15k one will be like you’re a braver man than I
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am. Like I used to absolutely hate like at school we went to gym but it was never
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fun at school. Yeah. Where like Strides helped with that like getting me into the gym.
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Yeah. Um well Joe’s helped. Strides helped. Yeah.
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In itself. I suppose it all like then knocks on from there as to like you’ve got the I don’t think even before like I don’t
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think I would have even had the confidence to go to the gym. This is it. But like Strides helped a lot with that
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as well. Perfect. And that confidence grows confidence I suppose and that you know you’re confident enough to go to the
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gym. You’ll go to the gym enough that like you’ll start noticing changes in yourself and then that will make you
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feel Yeah. It’s Yeah. One thing knocks knocks into knocks into the next. So
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I I guess just to sort of like summarize obviously Stride helps you in quite a lot of different ways and
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obviously we’ve got multiple services. Uh so independence coaching
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um which you have quite a lot of hours independence coaching outside your time working with
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us. Uh so that is onetoone support because obviously we are doing the reintroduction to stride now that it is
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onetoone support. Yeah, that’s what it is with Joe and and Lisa. Lisa’s on it. With Joe and Lisa and obviously I know
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you did some work with Ed as well and obviously Ed even in the workplace has been able to do some stuff with you on
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coping strategies. Um there’s been some job coaching support as well in the early days from myself and and Michelle
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um you know and and even now obviously we’re able to spend a little bit long with you and support you in the workplace. Uh, but all these things have
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played just like a a crucial role in making you more like just the sounds of
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your weak compared to how it sounded when I first met you. Unreal. It’s it’s
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really good. And it like it it sort of it genuinely puts a smile on my face to
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sort of see how like how your life has changed. Yeah, you can be a pain in the ass sometimes, but
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it’s uh you you’re loudmouth around the office and all that lot, but it’s absolutely fine. It’s uh I’d rather be
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you be a loud mouth around our I think if I came in if there was one day and I came in and I didn’t say a
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word to Logan. I feel like he’d actually have more of a problem with it. He’d be like, “Why aren’t you speaking to me?”
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Yeah. Yeah. To be fair, he would worry. So people are quick to
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sort of say, “Oh, you know, is chees blah blah blah.” As soon as you’re not,
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soon as it’s like there’s a day and you’re quiet, it’s like, “What’s wrong with what’s wrong with SH?” Everybody’s
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like concerned because it’s just it’s not normal. It’s just like you are just you’re part of the Stride.
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I know it sounds cringe, but you are you’re part of the Stride family. Now the word cringe is cringe. What’s a better way to
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You’re more like hip than me. What’s a better word? You’re hip. That’s a cringe.
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The way you said that was wilder than you. Like you’re you’re hipper than me. Yeah. Yeah. I’m a dad and now that
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aren’t I now? Um I’m a homeowner. I’m a dad. I’m not allowed to forget.
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Yeah. Is that what we’re getting at? Just a big stupid adult. Um
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yeah. Wait. Um what’s a what’s a less cringy word for cringe?
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I don’t know. I don’t know. Is there another word? Uh, if if something’s just a bit
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Oh, anyway, look, it doesn’t matter. Does not matter. Does not matter. Back
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on subject. So, there’s quite a lot of different ways obviously that that stride
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benefits you, you know, directly and indirectly and and our call services
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have been, you know, a big part of that. Um, and that’s been great for you. And obviously um Miles
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Mhm. your journey has been very different. Mhm. I really I’m thinking about what’s
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probably the best time to talk about that on the video and it probably is uh
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kind of now now share as much as you want but if you just want to talk about how your journey directly into stride
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has been as a as a neurody divergent person or obviously if you want to share a bit of subtext to that
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yeah I’ll give a bit of context as to yeah yeah and I think it’s it’s definitely worth
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saying as to you know when when I when I mentioned earlier that shez and I our
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neurodiversity is different. Um so
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basically in short whistle stop tour last year um I was driving back from Heathrow airport uh I fell asleep at the
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wheel. Um I flipped the car some six or seven times. Um and yeah was entrapped
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in the car. Um I sustained a brain injury to the right side of my head. So
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my left side was paralyzed. Um and yeah, my neurodiversity is more
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via the guise of brain damage. Um I have a diffused exonal a diffused axonal
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injury. Uh bilateral contusions and
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a subractoid hemorrhage. That that those were the three that uh that happened. And then, you know, I I had to learn how
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to to walk again. I had to speak and how to speak again. And um yeah, it’s um even just having a
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job at Stride, which is like I mentioned before that feels that bit more meaningful and
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has a bit more not intensive moving parts, but actually
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has a actual job to do. I’ve I’ve been working in retail for the last 6 months.
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Um, and again, it’s all played its purpose as to my overall recovery. Um,
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but this job is that bit more specific as opposed to what size shoe do
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you want type thing. Um, and yeah, even starting the job with Stride has gone
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very has gone really really far for me as to showing me just, you know, what I
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can do now. cuz yes, as much as I’ve had to learn how to walk and talk and everything again, if you just said to me
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this time last year, oh, you’ll be working for a charity um as a social
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media marketing manager, um I just said that there’s no way. Um there was a time
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when being stood up for any more than like 20 seconds was completely
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unimaginable. Um and yeah um so be it be
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the be the be it that the role is just social media um I really want to sort of
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navigate the voice of it to be yes to outline the service and what we
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do and like real like success stories but keeping it still inspiring and
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approachable if you like um and yeah, again, I’m I’m not going to reinvent the
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wheel um or make neurodyiverse people’s lives better, but it might what what I
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put in might offer a bit of a platform for neurodiverse people to feel seen or to
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feel heard type thing. Yeah. Yeah. Like if we can just put some some fun
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stuff out there that people can relate to. Yeah. um and join in a discussion on like
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and and and you know give give us things he’d like to see and and comment and
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help people and like that would be that honestly that would be a dream come
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true. And before this point uh we again we never we didn’t see social media as
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um or or you know YouTube or our video content as anything that really could be its own thing. Mhm.
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We always just saw it as like here’s our services and we help people that neurody divergent and that’s amazing and of
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course it’s amazing and our social media is something that just should be used to market those but
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I love the idea that we’re going in this direction that so and and this is where we’re going to get to later in this in
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this video is that the social media is going to be its own living breathing part of stride and we
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want to bring neurody divergent people together um across an online platform which is amazing.
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Um Miles, your story it’s it’s deeply personal and obviously I had a big um I
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won’t say I had a I didn’t have a big part in it. I had a I had a part to play in it in in that
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obviously we are we are friends. Um I’ve known you for I’ve known Miles for a lot of years. Um, I’m really honored
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to have uh been able to bring you on to the team now as a social media manager. Thank you, mate.
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Um, honestly, it’s uh it means the world to me. No, Miles since uh since school
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and um you know, when it when I hear the news, it was I was absolutely devastated
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um as were everybody obviously around you at the time. Um, and to see you like
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here doing the damn thing. Like it’s the damn thing. It’s back in a yuppy roll.
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You know what I mean? It’s But yeah, and again like given that you’ve seen me uh
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like my weakest and most I would say damaged, most injured if you like most
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vulnerable. Um, and you you you even helped me sort of navigate um like
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day-to-day finances gave me that I couldn’t work. Um, and yeah, be it now
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in a employment situation or even prior to this as a friend. Um, yeah, you’ve
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you’ve really helped and and done the most. So, uh, as much as you’re saying it’s nice having me here, it’s it’s gone
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a hell of a long way for me and it’s I just, yeah, really appreciate the the
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the opportunity and the trust given that I forget everything. And um,
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hey, so do I, though. Yeah. Yeah. like at least I’ve got somebody that uh
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you know what’s hella funny is that um so today we had this from 9:00 a.m. Um I got here
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at like 5 to 9 and I could see that 7 had already been filming something else
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outside. And I can only imagine that’s because they’ve said 9:00 a.m. to you and that you get that wrong. And I know
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that that is so true because you text me last night being what time did we say we’re gonna reach seven tomorrow. Yeah.
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I like right. So yeah. And then got here and
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do better. That’s me. That is me. That is uh we’ve got um do
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you know what? I’d love to be able to change that about myself. But that is honestly just part of
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it’s just part of my infrastructure. Do they? do use a calendar now, but it the problem comes when I forget to put
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things in the damn thing. Yeah, that’s um I do that. I’ve got a calendar and I forget to put
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stuff in it. Yeah, it’s hard as well because a lot of obviously Stride I have no clue what I’ve got. If it doesn’t go in my calendar, it
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doesn’t happen. Like so a lot of the lessons of Stride were, you know, we’re helping people with um
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ADHD, for example, to become Yeah. Yeah. to set, you know, plans out
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and all this and like you’ll text me the night before. What time do we say tomorrow? I can’t do it. I I can’t.
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We’re here to help you keep track of time. Even though please somebody our manager can’t
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Yeah. I I think the the one thing I would say is like genuinely the things that our organization
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um do you need a conversation with Ed the the things that our organization uses
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within practice it’s either things I should use or things that I do genuinely use and it works.
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Um Ed is is ultimate and people like Miles in the team as well super organized and
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I mean the team in general they’re all class. Um yeah the work that they do they are
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genuinely specialists. Um but for for me just just going back to the
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point of the social media um that’s you guys that’s your your different stories and I think both of
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your stories at some point deserves its own video its own podcast and its own thing
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in it. So, it was a very brief overview of just like where you’ve came from and what Stride then means to you and um
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obviously on the subject of um I was going to say on the subject of
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adjustments, how has it been joining Stride? But let’s leave that because let me just quickly introduce Harry as well
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who who isn’t here today. Um but he said specifically, I want you to talk about me loads and loads of
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times in the video. He said he did it actually. Those words like I better be spoken
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about in this video obviously. So Harry is the third musketeer
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of the social media team. Yeah. Uh and uh so the the way that just to
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explain Harry’s role um is photographer.
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Jez’s role is social media content creator. Um, and the idea is is like Harry
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Harry does the photos and feeds Shz with loads and loads of photos and content. Um, and you sh then turns those turns
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that into posts and plasters them all over our Facebook, LinkedIn, you name it.
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Yeah. Um but um I’m I was sort of like managing that
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team, but I knew it could be something more. And obviously I’ve I’ve
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sort of followed Miles’s as journey and well from a really personal point of
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view. Um and you know, we’ve kept in touch, haven’t we, along along the way on how
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your recovery has been and all that kind of stuff. And uh it just made sense to go this route. Miles has always been a you’ve always
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been a creative in bands and um even in in the the things that I saw
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in the run-up to this was like Miles’s um you know blog and and things like
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talking about uh talking about your recovery and things like that. Yeah. Like uh a brain injury from the
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POV of a young person. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, because there’s there’s not a lot of
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experience on the internet. And that was something that uh my mom and my partner
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actually discovered when I was in hospital cuz there was a lot of talks of
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almost like my um uh my chance of survival type thing like
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the probability of my survival. Um, and there was I mean there still isn’t a hell of a lot on the internet to give
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yeah like firstand like a realistic authentic this is what happens this is what it looks like. Mhm.
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I mean, I’m saying that there’s not loads. I think I follow maybe three or four people on Instagram like globally,
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but um yeah, still not huge and still not tons of like actual real um
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day-to-day type thing. But yeah, but yeah, like you saying, so with my blog and whatnot.
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Yeah. What you you What were you saying? No, just just how that’s sort of like um
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uh something that I followed in the runup to this point to to give you to
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give you an opportunity and um it made sense to bring you in as a
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social media manager. Um obviously we’ve got um ju just very
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briefly going back to um Harry. So you got Harry there as now photographer, you as the manager of the
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team because I found myself too busy to be able to manage these two all the time and and I knew you could add more to it.
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I knew you had that creative flare to add to it and obviously you’ve got sh content creator. So that’s the social
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media team. Now Harry is also um neurodyivergent and I’m going to give him his own opportunity to talk about
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all that in his in his videos and um sorry in future videos and what that means for him and uh what he brings to
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the team. But um just as a as a person and and not a condition, he’s super um
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uh he how he’s very blunt. Um yeah, you could say that.
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And uh he’s Yeah. very straight talking, very plain talking. He wants to know
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where he needs to be, how he’s going to get there, what he’s taking photos of when he’s there. But then when he shows
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you the photos, the um the photos are just incredible. They are amazing.
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They are amazing photos. Yeah. Like every time I see like like the photos from the um
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photo shoot thing around Lakeside were amazing. Mhm. Yeah. The photo club thing. Yeah. Yeah. The photo club. They were
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the So good. And what a great in fact could you just tell everybody a bit more about what that is cuz it was sort of
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done around the time I was off on um what Harry’s photograph paternity leave. Yeah. What what the
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what that group is. Well it’s once a month I guess. Suppose
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this would be better coming from Harry. Oh well. Um we will I’ll give I’ll give Harry the
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opportunity to talk about his Yeah. Anything that you say or anything that you say incorrectly or forget to say I’m sure Harry with Harry like that
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was wrong. This is Justin. Harry’s going to like this because we said we’d talk about him quite a lot. So, let’s let’s get him on.
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You’re welcome, Harry. Um, yeah. So, they gather once a month. It
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generally changes places and they like take photos of like wildlife and
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Mhm. So, there’s a bunch of them, but like their photos just look amazing.
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Yeah. like they all take so they all take photos and they all get sent to like me or Harry and then
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like Harry will edit them but like once they’re done they’re great.
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Yeah. So Harry’s um obviously we we again we followed Harry for years. Harry
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was a client of ours and again he’ll he’ll talk about his specific journey around that. Um, but what I would say
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for now, um, have a look at him, his personal stuff on social media. The
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sky’s is the limit photography. Um, Instagram. Uh, we will we should we should tag him.
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Oh, we can put all the links in the comments something. We’ll we’ll do that when we when we do the socials for this. Uh, because his
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stuff is really exceptional and it’s worth sharing. And I’m I do again I feel privileged to have every one of you on
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the team. Um, and I think a key thing for me, and this is what we’re going to
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get into more and more as this video goes on and as the series in general goes on and and you know what we’re
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going to be doing over the social socials over the next year as the series is is that each of your neurody
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divergent I think brings so much to the team as well. Like as much as you’ll
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you’ll be like, “Oh yeah, I have to get support for such and such. I have these things that hold me back.” Like
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each of you really have some amazing characteristics that you’ve been able to bring to necessarily say they hold me back.
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Is that what I said? Yeah. Well, then go on, elaborate. Correct him. Tell him.
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I wouldn’t say I wouldn’t say they hold me back. Yeah. They’re a bit of a
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I I don’t not want to say the word burden, but they are they are a bit of a No, call them up. Cancel him. They can get me cancelled. No, I
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wouldn’t really say I can’t ever anymore. I said that you said um I I think I was saying that there might be
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times when when I wouldn’t say they hold me back. I just think
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Yeah. give you a different perspective on life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that’s good
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and that’s exactly what how it should be. Um I suppose the point I was making was there there might be times in your
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life where you feel that uh you need extra support for certain things but
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then in other areas you can really sort of like
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like your particular neurody divergence brings so much creativity to your role. Um and that’s that’s I think the point I
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was trying to trying to make and for Harry as well. Um I know he’s like his eye for detail and
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um just the the focus that he has. He’s hella pragmatic. He’s like if there’s a right way of doing this then
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then he will do it. Yeah. Like what’s the what’s the the the means of this that makes the most sense
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I’m going to only do that way like and he’s Yeah. got really good foresight as to
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I mean that thing that we were doing the me and Harry was like doing together the other day on Thursday. Do you know
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Michael’s photo? Yes. Oh my god, I swear he spent like two hours on that and then I was just
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being stupid about saving it. Um, but no, he kept calling me over and was like, “Does this look good? Does this
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look good?” Harry, very collaborative. Stop. You’ve been at it for like 2 hours. Why are you still on this? Move
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on, man. He just But that’s again though, he just wants to make sure that if there’s something to do, he’s going to do it.
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He wanted it to be perfect. Yeah. So there’s a there’s a lot of different ways in which like obviously
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we see the positives of having neurody divergent people in the workplace. Obviously we and we said we’d talk about
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this. We said we’d we’d have the uh the open debate about
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me sort of saying could I could I be neurody divergent? Well, I’ve spoke about that. I think I
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have ADHD. Yeah. Well, I’ve Googled it and I reckon honestly there is the whole thing out
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there. Yeah. Um, and in fact, I think I said in one of my f in one of the first podcasts, um,
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yeah, you did. Uh, that I think I have ADHD. And my mom
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watched the podcast and she rang me up and she was like, uh, you don’t have ADHD. What do you mean? I like, well,
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in school, mom, literally every other month you was having my hearing tested. And that was because I couldn’t focus. I
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couldn’t pay attention. It wasn’t anything to do with my hearing. Um, and
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like I can’t be on time for anything. Yeah. Um, and I’m very creative, but at the same time, finding the motivation to
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do anything is difficult. Yeah. Uh, but then I can have moments of hyperfocus and it was like there was all these different things. Yeah. Makes a
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hell of a lot of sense. Um, and my brother is going through the uh process of getting diagnosed. I
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personally don’t like I could do that, but I’ve got enough on. You know what I
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mean? Who’s got the time? I’ve got I’ve got enough on and yes, okay, it might help me manage all the things that I’ve got
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on, but also I quite
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I know there are people out there with ADHD
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that don’t take medication um because they quite like who they are
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like. And I’m not saying I’m not saying that’s I’m not saying you you know that you
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can’t like who you are on medication type of thing, but I quite like the
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I wouldn’t want to go down the the pathway and then be medicated. And yes, I might and it maybe like dull you a little bit
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type thing cuz you qu you fire off a lot of cylinders, you know, like creatively
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like spitballing ideas and stuff. Yeah, I like the hyperfocus moments. I I like the good that I get with the bad.
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Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah. And that was that was earlier when I was sort of talking about like uh something
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holding me back. I I genuinely think sometimes my lack of ability to get up
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and go and do things um on some days uh and it can sometimes weeks on end can
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hold me back. But then when I do get in the zone and I’ve got that hyperfocus, I almost feel like
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that’s legendary. Like I can it feels like I’ve just had NZT off Limitless. Did you do you know that film with
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Bradley Cooper? Have you ever watched the series? Yes, I have actually. It was all right. I think it could have been better than
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it was. It was He was Yeah, Bradley Cooper was actually in the series as well. Yes, he was. Only Yeah, he played like this.
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I feel like I’m the only person that’s ever watched the series. I don’t know why that was my first.
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Um, so it’s it’s hard because yes, I’m I’m not diagnosed, but I think I would
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identify as having ADHD. is that like but then I know there’s a lot of people
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that say that these days and it’s almost I don’t know if I don’t want to say it runs a risk of being being a trend at
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the minute but a lot of people do say they have ADHD and but then again maybe it’s just because there’s more recognition of it and
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there’s more people out there. Yeah, maybe maybe there’s more people talking about it now because we live in
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a time where people can be that bit more forthcoming with who they are and like how they feel type
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thing. um maybe a lot of the previous generation didn’t speak about it because
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it was kind of like a taboo type thing like like when you’re saying that you were saying to your mom you suspect you might have ADHD anyone were like what no
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it’s like not saying it’s a bad thing it just is something that might be there and maybe
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given that that’s the sort of um that’s maybe like the need responses to oh no
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you definitely don’t have it. It’s like maybe the generations pre-s just
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almost didn’t want to accept it or validate it. I don’t know. Um
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so I I think it’s one of the things and it’s interesting. So if you think of the education system, right? So
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you get so you get so much variation in
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performance and outcomes uh in grades. You got so many people that are on paper
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so much more intelligent that they’re getting, you know, I mean, back in our day was
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A’s and A stars. These days it’s like levels ones, twos, and threes and numbers numbers now. I think like it can
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still be translated to the letters. I don’t know. We all grades in numbers. I didn’t do grades.
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What you mean? Like when you got when you got your results, were yours in like numbers or were they in like what you mean? Like did you get A’s or did you get like
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ones? Uh, no. What do you mean? No. Did you get one or the other? No.
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We didn’t do that at school. We were supposed to do like GCSEs and then halfway through they was like, “No,
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you’re not doing them now.” You But you went to college, didn’t you? And did you uh
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I just did media at college? Media? Yeah. Did you get graded? No. What did you get there? No, we didn’t get graded on media
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course. So, what you just turned up just for a laugh? Like, what’s the Well, no. I did life skills, which was
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just basically how to get on in life. And then I did media, but I didn’t even finish media
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cuz I was like already in in it type thing.
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Sh’s main skills probably weren’t in like we didn’t get grades at school. Yeah,
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I think it was a special because it was a special needs school. I don’t we didn’t get graded on anything.
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Miles is like having a moment. What? That’s my why my answer was just no.
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Because I’ve never been. Was it this or that? No, actually. All right. Fair enough. Yeah. Yeah. Well, but this is the thing
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though and I need to be quantified. Like we do GCES and then halfway through like it was supposed to GCE science. I
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think it was. And then like halfway through there was like I know you’re not doing it now. So I’d like got all these GCSE books and
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studied for it for absolute nothing. I was so annoyed. So, so all I was going
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to say was even even in mainstream education, there’s so much variation in outcomes,
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but really if you if you look at the average of um IQ’s in the world,
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yeah, the there’s not that much variance. There shouldn’t be that much var
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variation in grades, but obviously neurodeiversity in in as a whole is such
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a everybody’s so different and everybody’s so good at different everybody’s so you know some people are
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good at some things some people good at other things some people are bad at some things some people good at you get what I’m trying to say
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um so even forgetting about neurody divergent so does somebody have
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a a condition that makes them Um, if you might use the word neuroatypical
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as opposed to neurotypical, there’s still so much variation.